Monday, January 08, 2007

Meg's Book - Chapter 28 - Revelation

Trivia - When I was going through expanding certain sections of the book, I came across D&C 132:51. Now, I'm sure that verse was in my scriptures when they were printed, and I'm sure I've read D&C 132 many times. But it had never hit me what that verse meant in the context of the events that had occurred by July 1843.


ktb said...

That is quite a chapter, and one much fuller of symbolic meaning and religious impact than those up to it.

With the revelation brought into the open, possibly based on dedicated prayer by Joseph, trying to understand God’s will, the story takes on much greater proportions. Hope that is all consistant with the Doctrine and Covenants – said since I saw you removed the part about gods from Chapter 18. If that is the way it is to Mormons then that is the way it is to Mormons, but as mentioned, if there is a bridge spanning that belief and that of ancient writings, then it would be huge to convey if important to the story.

daughterofheaven said...

It caught me off guard to realize verse 51 of section 132 implies there was an earlier revelation where Joseph is told that (for his transgression (I infer it was his moving forward without Emma)) he has lost Emma and that his life is required as sacrifice to repair the damage his actions have done to God's church. In the world of my fiction, Joseph is required to give Emma to his brother and spiritual heir, Hyrum. In real life, this whole scenario is never discussed. It threw me for such a major loop yesterday when I realized it was there that I almost decided I couldn't write the book - certainly messed with keeping up the 'one chapter a day' tempo. Now that I've written through it and gotten some sleep, I see it is not in conflict with anything else, and in fact ties up a lot of threads I had wanted to bring together and was trying to create a fictional crisis to tie up.

One of my challenges is that I am constraining myself to Elvira's viewpoint. So she would not necessarily be aware of Joseph's thoughts and feelings in the wake of his imprisonment to the level you seem to desire. I can certainly insert more than is currently there, that would be reasonable for someone spending hours a day in the Smith household to observe.

Regarding the little "g" "gods" stuff. It is not material to the story. I'm sure I could search up what Paul said about that stuff, but we're leaving for Sunday dinner in a couple of minutes.

ktb said...

I read verse 60 as referring to the trangression of Joseph. I can not yet make the leap as to how verse 51 refers to what you are saying, but I am sure that it is there. It would seem that the verses are telling Emma that she must accept the New and Everlasting Covenant as it pertains to plurality, or be destroyed. Either way, Joseph may have many wives, as long as they are virgins when he marries them. It would seem that Emma would have more of a say in the selection of wives if she accepts.

Good story! No response requested, particularly on an empty stomach.

daughterofheaven said...

I'm pretty sure Emma was being told she would be destroyed if she actually pursued this other man (whoever he was). And she was also being told that she would be destroyed (or words to that effect) if she continued to deny Joseph what the Lord wanted Joseph to 'have.' At the same time, Joseph was being told he was in deep kimchee for having taken what the Lord intended to give him before Emma gave it to him or the Lord released him for the requirement to get Emma's approval. So pretty much everyone was in trouble and the Lord was pissed.

ktb said...

Chapter 20b: Instead of Emma asking if it was Joseph’s child that she killed that night in Fenruary, what do you think about asking if it was Jospeh’s child that she may have caused to be miscarried that night in February. A horrible accident if so, but I do not think it was intentional murder. Page 9, "Elvira squeezed Emma’s hands. "I don’t think Joseph knew this was a test. The Lord has severely reprimanded him for taking other wives without your permission." This seems to introduce the test of offering Emma to another, and then Joseph’s transgression for not obtaining Emma’s consent before taking other wives. I read this as two main themes right next to one another without a transition.

Pat said...

This chapter is fine, but it is full and heavy whereas most of the preceding chapters have been light and somewhat tentative. While there are adjustments that need to be made (I agree about the reference to 'killing' Eliza's child) this chapter is more of what I would like to see in the previous chapters, perhaps by compacting them, or expanding each with more details of various kinds.

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